My OBEs...
I see OBEs and astral projections 2 different things. I have few real OBEs...When I started to read the Mastering Astral Projection book of Robert Bruce I noticed that to take you out of your body is different and very hard then what I call astral projection what is quite effortless for me.
When I progressed in my reading (I have all of Robert Bruces books)...I started to have sighns of leaving my body...I was stuck and I was not taking my out of my body...one time I had my hands and arms out of my head.
I had often good vibrations and all the noices and the bussing in my body but did not take me out of my body...so I decided to take a nap and I thought that I just rolled to my side...but suddenly I was on the floor...very sluggish and hard to rise me up...I was sure I had a stroke...thougts started to run high in my head...where is my phone...I have to call 112 for help...I remembered my phone to be in the kitchen..so I tried my hardest to rise me up but did not work...so I crawled and thougt to take help from my foot end of my bed..(wooden bed end)..I managed somehow to rise me half up and leanded to the bed end...and swooosh I was back in my body..WOW..I was out of my body...I went through the wooden bed end....WOW...I was amazed.
I realy was pumped and with exitedment about the program is working...I went on with my practis...I used the rope technique....I did not feel any specifick out of body symptoms...just was out somewhere...looking at my feets and they melt away....my thought was...I must be out of my body...
One time I found myself in a very black inviroment...thinking is it night...I am floating in the air....I started to hear like a car of a motorcycle coming in high speed...swoosh...it went by me...it was another projector...someone out of body too...I felt ...this must be dangerous to be here...they go with high speed and I can not do anything but float....
Much of my energy started to be occupied with painful memories...so I stopped the practis for many years...
Now I am back to start my practis.
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When I first was interested in OBEs etc. (I had some spontanous experiences as a kid, and later), as most of people. I was mostly curious about the experience itself. Now, since the end months of the 2020, I am more struck by the fact how many people have very similar scenarios about OBE. People mainly go through difficulties.
I was and am researching this subject on my own, I carefully read Robert A. Monroe's books and Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics book several times to get the idea about the circumstances and non obvious facts surrounding his experiences, his approach and the possible factors impacting their journeyes, which - to my surprise - later became sort of boring to Robert A. Monroe, and I concluded that actually all known cases of OBE are silently triggered by the entities who want us to think that these experiences happen spontanously. But they don't. Even more, I'd say that most of astral projection cases are just the show to us. None of them is coincidental at all. These experiences are designed for our extra-sensory perception: the combinations of the energy stimulation (what you sense during the OBE - what is commonly known as "vibrations") and mind projections. These entities have the power to invisibly stimulate our minds and our energy, not just of the mental and astral body, but now I can say with 100% of cerainity that also the physical body. You need to have a vast amount of knowledge and trained pereception to do the OBE on your own, without the stimulation of vibrations, very often appearing out of "nowhere" (the truth is that they appear not just "because", but these vibrations are the effect of an invisible stimulation). Yes, this is kind of manipulation of the human race in the XXth and XXIth century from "outside".
Next to taking the "I know nothing" approach, as Robert A. Monroe - the modern pioneer in making the OBE popular - did, resulting in detailed reports from his journeys about what he felt, what he saw etc., there come also a very handy different approach - putting the entire experience into a wide context, and attempting to answer the questions like why do we live here incarnated, and how the situation is on this planet, and - this is more essential question than it seems at first glance - does the world beyond the physical looks like e.g. Bruce Moen described, i.e. that there are "lost" souls which have been left alone, and now the living people, like Bruce Moen, need to rescue them? IMO the evidences and a thorough research going beyond the well-know now details, suggest that the direct sensory focus on the OBE journeys need to be revised and put into the broader idea of the situation on this planet.